[info]crystalplumage 2008-04-01 12:36 pm UTC (link)
When you intitiate into palo mahyombe,and sometimes santeria,depending upon who your teacher is,the first thing they make you do is read ALL the works of Allan Kardec. Kardec was a French philosopher who spoke to spirits ,and wrote it all down and put it into books. Book of mediums ,and book of spiritism,are the 2 you must know cold. Kardec was in contact with one main spirit,Zifiro ,who was of a high order. And he explained "the other side",and all its workings to Kardec,and he immortalized it by writing it down.Kardec gave Zefiro this name,and saw him as male,but spirits can change form . Many lie. On the other side,we are merely spirits of different levels of enlightenment. Zefiro told him,we have no need for names,and you all call us by different ones anyway . This is how the causal connection between similar spirits ,in different pantheons ,can be explained. Ganesha=Ellegua=Mercury Oya=Kali=Lilith=Morrigan=Hecate=Centella Ndoki=Saint Theresa Zeus=Obatala=Dambala=Zarabanda These are just exaples,but there are dozens. All religions see them from ,shall we say, a different angle,but its still the same spirit,but we all give them different names. There is but one God,God dictates to his "helpers,"who are what you might call saints ,or the "gods" indicated in my examples.. They too ,have helper spirits under them and so forth. We are all in a pecking order. We are required to reincarnate to grow and learn and become more enlightened with each incarnation . Lower case spirits,spirits off evil,do not go forward.In spirit form they can be called demons. People like mass murders and sadists ,tend to have demon spirits.Some of them are older than others.So some are more powerful than others,both evil and good.This is where we get myth about demons like great byzantine and summarian devils,the spirits of the goetia.etc etc .Ones that possess and torment the living. The are the flip side of the saint coin. Things are preordained karma/fate wise ,but there can be accidents and free will . So fate can change,despite what is written in the akashik records . So we much learn this in order to prepare ourselves to see and speak to them. We must know the nature and hierarchy of spirits,and how guardianship works . Guardians are our overseers.Some we have for life,but others come in and out of our lives when we need them,and move on. Most of us have at least 2.I know do,and one appears as a Viking in full regalia,hat with horns and all ,and one is a small pygmy african boy .Some of this depends upon your spirit lineage ,none of which has to do with wether or not were were born chinese or hispanic. In rare cases ,family can be guardians,but usually only in the case of a parent dying before a young child ,they can be allowed to be guardian,but its rare. As family are spirits we tend to be reincarnated with each life time. We are kindred souls,so we find one another each time.Its why sometimes you meet someone and say ,"i feel as if i have known you forever".In some cases,,you have. Once we undertsand guardianship,we must then learn the prayers and how to to speak to them . Its a very long learning process,and to say our guardians would abuse us this way,is a sin in any pantheon. It does not happen.If it does ,its a lowercase faking who they are,psychically abusing and maybe even possessing their victim. And all of this correlates to Buddhist and Taosit belief,being 2 of the oldest religions on the planet . AMMAs teachings also mirror Kardecs,and she is not a follower of Kardec at all. But i am a follower of AMMA. Read Kardecs works is all i can say .
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Date: 2016-03-13 05:53 am (UTC)2008-04-01 12:36 pm UTC (link)
When you intitiate into palo mahyombe,and sometimes santeria,depending upon who your teacher is,the first thing they make you do is read ALL the works of Allan Kardec.
Kardec was a French philosopher who spoke to spirits ,and wrote it all down and put it into books.
Book of mediums ,and book of spiritism,are the 2 you must know cold.
Kardec was in contact with one main spirit,Zifiro ,who was of a high order.
And he explained "the other side",and all its workings to Kardec,and he immortalized it by writing it down.Kardec gave Zefiro this name,and saw him as male,but spirits can change form . Many lie.
On the other side,we are merely spirits of different levels of enlightenment. Zefiro told him,we have no need for names,and you all call us by different ones anyway .
This is how the causal connection between similar spirits ,in different pantheons ,can be explained.
Ganesha=Ellegua=Mercury
Oya=Kali=Lilith=Morrigan=Hecate=Centella Ndoki=Saint Theresa
Zeus=Obatala=Dambala=Zarabanda
These are just exaples,but there are dozens.
All religions see them from ,shall we say, a different angle,but its still the same spirit,but we all give them different names.
There is but one God,God dictates to his "helpers,"who are what you might call saints ,or the "gods" indicated in my examples.. They too ,have helper spirits under them and so forth.
We are all in a pecking order.
We are required to reincarnate to grow and learn and become more enlightened with each incarnation .
Lower case spirits,spirits off evil,do not go forward.In spirit form they can be called demons.
People like mass murders and sadists ,tend to have demon spirits.Some of them are older than others.So some are more powerful than others,both evil and good.This is where we get myth about demons like great byzantine and summarian devils,the spirits of the goetia.etc etc .Ones that possess and torment the living. The are the flip side of the saint coin.
Things are preordained karma/fate wise ,but there can be accidents and free will .
So fate can change,despite what is written in the akashik records .
So we much learn this in order to prepare ourselves to see and speak to them.
We must know the nature and hierarchy of spirits,and how guardianship works .
Guardians are our overseers.Some we have for life,but others come in and out of our lives when we need them,and move on.
Most of us have at least 2.I know do,and one appears as a Viking in full regalia,hat with horns and all ,and one is a small pygmy african boy .Some of this depends upon your spirit lineage ,none of which has to do with wether or not were were born chinese or hispanic.
In rare cases ,family can be guardians,but usually only in the case of a parent dying before a young child ,they can be allowed to be guardian,but its rare.
As family are spirits we tend to be reincarnated with each life time. We are kindred souls,so we find one another each time.Its why sometimes you meet someone and say ,"i feel as if i have known you forever".In some cases,,you have.
Once we undertsand guardianship,we must then learn the prayers and how to to speak to them .
Its a very long learning process,and to say our guardians would abuse us this way,is a sin in any pantheon.
It does not happen.If it does ,its a lowercase faking who they are,psychically abusing and maybe even possessing their victim.
And all of this correlates to Buddhist and Taosit belief,being 2 of the oldest religions on the planet .
AMMAs teachings also mirror Kardecs,and she is not a follower of Kardec at all. But i am a follower of AMMA.
Read Kardecs works is all i can say .